Best diagnosis you ever caught?


Intro from Daniel Palestrant, Founder & CEO of Sermo
The Sermo community recounts times when they were able to diagnose a patient with a tricky diagnosis. In many of the 400+ cases, the physicians made life-saving discoveries.

Originally Posted to the Sermo Community
By: A Psychiatrist on Sermo

I'm looking for stories about patients for whom you made the correct diagnosis when previous or current doctors missed it. Yes, I know, none of us is perfect either, but this is your chance to brag. No stories about catching malingerers or drug-seekers, please; it should be a genuine medical condition.

Extra points for any of the following:

+1 if diagnosis was missed by at least one specialist in that field of medicine or if diagnosis was missed by at least two other colleagues; +2 if missed by an expert in that field

+1 if patient has been told s/he is "crazy," "psychosomatic," or "histrionic"; +2 points if it's been written in the chart or in the referral letter

+1 if you tentatively diagnosed the condition based on the history and exam, without labs or other studies; +2 if you diagnosed it based on history alone or diagnosed it on the very first visit

Some of my favorite catches: On the first visit, hyperparathyroidism in a patient who'd been in psychoanalysis with a non-MD for 10 years for depression; and also on the first visit, multiple sclerosis with demyelinating brain lesions in a patient who had been diagnosed as psychotic with "unremarkable" labs and head CT, and had just completed a psychiatric day treatment program. (I admit that on the second patient I suspected a breast cancer recurrence with brain mets, but it was still the brain MRI with and w/o contrast that I sent her for which caught it, so I'm counting it.)

Response from a Critical Care Physician: "As a medical student in Detroit, I saw a patient for one of those 12 page H+P you do in medical school. He had a white patch on his arm, and I noted it didn't seem to have much feeling. The only condition I knew that fit was leprosy. Imagine the scoffing on rounds when I suggested it. One of 4 cases diagnosed in the country that year."

Response from a Pediatrician: "8 year old with cough/boogers. First time I have ever seen him, walked in the room and knew he just didn't look right. Very long limbs, skinny, thin thin bones, + wrist wrap test-- pretty clearly Marfan's. I mentioned this to mom and she said "He looks just like dad so it must be normal." I sent them to Genetics and told her to make sure dad goes too. Sure enough dx with Marfan's. Dad had an echo done shortly after and he was found to have a dissecting aortic aneurysm that required surgical correction. So me paying attention saved the dad!"

Response from a Family Medicine Physician: “One of my students and I diagnosed a case of Huntington's in a 23-year-old woman who we followed through her pregnancy and delivery. It became obvious after delivery, and I gotta give the student credit for spotting it first. The neurologist we sent her to said she was depressed and needed a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist said her strange movements were responses to her inner voices and she needed to go on a vacation. We sent her to a world-renowned movement disorders specialist and he took one look at her from across the room and said "This is obviously Huntington's. Why did you bring her to me?" No prior family history. Just that her mother died in a mental institution of unknown causes and one of her mother's parents (the one with the gene, presumably) died young in an accident.”

Response from a Psychiatrist: "As a medical student on GYN, I was examining a new patient who had already been examined by the resident and attending. One of her breasts had peau d'orange. The exams by the resident and attending said normal....she had a mastectomy a few days later."

Response from a General Surgeon: “Diagnosed a pt with nausea for three years without a source. Had multiple abdominal procedures including a lap chole, EGDs , CT scans galore. Real diagnosis? Benign positional vertigo. Noticed she was dizzy with nystagmus in her room. I asked if the dizziness caused the nausea or came after. She said she was always dizzy, made her nauseous. Looked it up, started meclizine, all better. Go figure."

Response from an Emergency Medicine Physician: "I have had several cases where I elicited strong family histories of multiple DVT/PEs....ended up getting whole families tested and diagnosed with a familial thrombotic disorder....especially proud of this because based on one patient visit - it potentially cascaded into dozens of lives saved....now and in the future."

Response from a Neurologist: “A patient who was diagnosed with ALS by two different doctors due to progressive spasticity and "abnormal EMG's." On exam, she had a spastic paraplegia but had severe sensory loss particularly in vibration and proprioception and had classic steppage gait. I suspected B12 deficiency which was confirmed by labs and her spine MRI showed classic posterior column involvement."

Response from a Family Medicine Physician: "I have "caught" three adult patients with major cardiac defects requiring surgical treatment. These are people who were misdiagnosed as "asthma" or had been told they "have a murmur" but apparently nobody thought to check and ECHO in the 20-30 years of having the murmur. I also think some of these were missed because the patient underplayed it as in "I've always had a murmur since childhood" and everyone in between figured someone else had checked it. One of them had frank heart failure at the age of 26."

Response from an Emergency Medicine Physician: " 300#, 6'5" female, actually had known osteogenesis imperfecta (blue sclera and all). History of LBP, becoming frequent flyer. PE reveals a "full" abdomen - CT confirms 7 LITER ovarian cyst!"

Response from an Emergency Medicine Physician: "Just diagnosed malaria this week. Only second time in my career. Had been seen in another ER 24 hours before. Diagnosed as a viral syndrome. We just don't see a lot of malaria in rural Pa.”

Response from a Neurologist: "Diagnosed a retired doc with viral meningitis not too long ago - he'd been hospitalized for a week with "DT's", (first ever DT's in an nearly 90 year old retired doc who was a 2 martini a day man. Come on now!) I insisted on the LP, and glad I did.”

Response from a Gastroenterologist: "Addiction to kimchi in an older Korean woman with a long history of abdominal pain, gas, extensive negative gi work up. Just weaned her off the kimchi and she is now forever grateful.”

Response from an Internal Medicine Physician: "Myasthenia Gravis...in a 22 year old female who complained that her "eyes always got tired when driving home from work each evening." Initially diagnosed as "allergies" and "chronic fatigue" by others. There was just something in her story and how she said that she wasn't particularly "tired" per say, but that her eyelids felt droopy. Subsequent testing proved the diagnosis and she underwent successful thymectomy.

So the old saying proved true in this case..."When in doubt, LISTEN TO YOUR PATIENTS...They're telling you the diagnosis!”

Response from a Psychiatrist: "As resident, diagnosed diaphragmatic hernia with bowels in chest cavity by auscultation in 46 yo male admitted for depression because of chronic pain complaints that were "delusional in nature". Confirmed by chest xray, transferred to surgery and lived happily ever after.”

Response from a Family Medicine Physician: "An early 20's Hispanic male that had been bounced by ER's with headaches as a drug seeker for 2 years came to my office where I noticed slightly asymmetric pupils, an MRI confirmed he was about to herniate his brain from an intracranial parasitic infestation."

Are physicians more tolerant of "differences" than most?


Intro from Daniel Palestrant, Founder & CEO of Sermo
The Sermo community discusses how to whether physicians practice more tolerance of people's differences than others. Doctors learn early that all human beings are the same on the inside. Some argues physicians are more tolerant, others find a higher level of sexism and racism. Many commenters remind us this differs greatly from person to person, despite profession.

Originally Posted to the Sermo Community
By: A Thoracic Surgeon on Sermo

It seems to me that the physicians I have met are more tolerant of "differences" (in religion, race, etc) than most people in the general population. Most of us have friends/colleagues of different races and religions and do not seem to have much trouble with this compared to the religion bashing and overt racism seen in our society in general.

Tonight is Eid, so I am covering general surgery in our small community for my Muslim surgical colleague (in addition to covering my own specialty).

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In this community, many of the Pakistani and Indian physicians are friends (almost never seen in their countries of origin). Same with Arab and Jewish physicians, black and white physicians are virtually color blind (although their patients not so much), and even an Armenian physician has an Azerbaijani partner.

Are we more tolerant than most, and if so, why?

Is it just that we have actually met more diverse people during our training and gotten to know them as people rather than stereotypes, or do we just like having someone else to take call on our holidays?

I almost never hear my colleagues complaining about their peers treating them poorly because of their race or religion, and yet I constantly hear my female colleagues (and my wife) complaining about overt sexism in medicine.

As a secondary question, why do you think there is so little racial or religious strife among physicians and yet so much sexism?

Please feel free to share your personal stories.

Response from an Internal Medicine Physician: "For me, I don't see patients as colors, or religions, or sexes. I see them as people in need, people who are sick and that I might be able to help. People who are afraid that I might be able to comfort. I take care of patients with no insurance, homeless patients, ones with not enough money to afford proper food. And I used to take care of patients who were CEOs of huge corporations. And everyone in between. I just take care of people who trust me enough to give me that honor. That's all I see.”

Response from an Allergy & Immunology Physician: " I think we are as a group more tolerant than the general public since we often have direct contact with people from various ethnic and religious groups. However there are always exceptions to the rule."

Response from a Pediatrician: “Oh gosh, I can think of countless times when I've been called "that Mexican Chick" by other physicians in the hospital, but I can usually counter with "that old geezer". But I don't think they particularly discriminate against me."

Response from a General Surgeon: "Honestly, I often find people from other cultures more interesting and respectful than my typical American patients. Not to dismiss my typical patients, but it is great to meet and learn about the world outside of your own narrow sphere. It is critical for us to learn about each other with tolerance and respect, especially now."

Response from a Neurologist: “Any residency class is going to be a mini-UN, with a mix of the native and the immigrant and the immigrant's kid. Then you realize that the guy from the most God-forsaken country can be a GREAT doc, and the spoiled rich kid can be terrible, and that it's really hard to stereotype."

Response from a Pediatric Neurologist: " Racism, sexism, classism, etc. exists in all of us. It is ingrained into our society and into our minds and no amount of training or covering of it will ever make it go away. …Physicians are trained to empathize, to put their own leanings aside, and to help carry a patient's burden from point A to point B, and sometimes beyond. In a sense, our training selects for those who are willing to do this. This is a process that all but requires self-exploration and the formation of a philosophy that includes an outlook that is generally hopeful."

Response from a Family Physician: "When you have seen the INSIDE of human beings (as we all have), you come to understand that we are essentially all alike."

Response from an Internal Medicine Physician: "As physicians, we see it ALL. When people are ill and need help, it makes no difference what color, race, religion or sexual orientation someone is. We took an oath to care for these individuals.”

Response from an Ophthalmologist: "I don't think physicians are any less bigoted than are other professionals with equivalent educational backgrounds.”

Response from a Internal Medicine Physician: "I think that people are accepting of people who can assimilate better into the general society so that they give up their own cultural identity to become accepted in the social fold. What is the real challenge is for people to truly learn and understand the culture of another so that they can see what really makes up who that person really is. I find that physicians don't really do that with their patients or their colleagues.”

Response from an Emergency Physician: "2 days ago, I took care of an illegal from Guatemala. He hadn't eaten in 3 days, was drinking from stock tanks, when he could find them, and had been bitten by a rattlesnake 30 hours before. He thanked me for "taking care of him." While I have my political feelings, such as, how much his care will cost taxpayers, none of that applied; he was a human-being who needed help. I think we're just good at separating our roles.”

Response from an Emergency Physician: "In my experience, it's those who have the least that appreciate it the most.”

Response from a Neurologist: "When patients make a big deal about being gay, Jewish, Black, etc (ie: have YOU EVER taken care of a Jewish lesbian, before?), I usually say, "If your blood is red, I'll take care of you. If it's green, then you are a Vulcan, and I'm not qualified to take care of you, unfortunately."

Response from an Anesthesiologist: "Medicine remains an exclusive club, and the ones who work their way into leadership positions tend to be more conservative, slow to change, and unyielding than your average real-world physician."

Response from an OBGYN: "Humans and all beings survive by being prejudiced. That's how we decide who to mate with, what to eat, where to go, how to survive. Let's not fool ourselves by thinking we are better than anyone else, we ALL have our prejudices. Even the reason we do good is for our own redemption."

Best After-Hours Page From A Patient


Intro from Daniel Palestrant, Founder & CEO of Sermo
Over 400 physicians in Sermo community discusses a lighter topic and laughs about silly and inappropriate after-hours calls from patients. It seems nearly every physician has at least one memorable middle-of-the-night call to relay.

Originally Posted to the Sermo Community
By: A Pediatric Oncologist on Sermo

What's your funniest, most annoying, or most incredible call?

Double points if the page woke you up.

I got a call at midnight this weekend, just after falling asleep. Mom wanted to know if her hemophiliac son could start pool-based scuba lessons.

Selected Responses

Response from an OBGYN: "1 am with a party in the background, "If I were to get pregnant..." "So you aren't pregnant now?" "No, but my friends and I were just wondering, if I did get pregnant, would it matter if.." "And are you planning on getting pregnant at this party?" "No!" "Then this is not an emergency question." Sadly, I was already awake.”

Response from a Family Physician: “No. The moment you say something, jeopardy attaches. At that point, You need to provide documentation to cover yourself."

Response from a Dermatologist: “My hand itches.”

Response from an OBGYN: "3 AM call from a patient telling me that she couldn't sleep. Ok, now that makes two of us."

Response from a Family Medicine: “Last fall, I got a call at 10:00 PM on a Friday night, "Should I get the flu shot on Monday?""

Response from an Infectious Diseases Physician: "At 3 AM one night a partner's female patient awakened me for "Ralph's" sore throat. Ralph was their dog. I told them I wasn't a vet and why don't they call them. Of course, they didn't want to awaken the vet, and since they were sure I was working a "shift in the ER" and had nothing better to do they called me. We didn't get into how they knew the dog's throat was sore."

Response from a OBGYN: "3 AM: "Yes, um, I was just seen in your office yesterday and was told I had a urinary tract infection. They gave me antibiotics but I went home and read about them and decided not to take them. Now I'm hurting really bad. What should I do?""

Response from a Family Medicine Physician: "Mom calling at 2 AM re: 8 yo daughter got marinara sauce in her eye. (at 2 AM???)"

Response from a Family Medicine Physician: "I got a call at 3am this morning from a patient wanting to know if it was too late to take a Tylenol PM!"

Response from a Pulmonologist: "After just getting back from the hosp. at 0200, I was awakened at 0330. "I've had a headache for 2 wks." I asked all the usuals -visual changes, nausea, neck stiffness, fever, location, pattern, etc. Getting nowhere, I asked why call now, what changed tonight? Answer: "It went away and I got scared."”

Response from a Family Medicine Physician: "4:35AM call from a new patient. "What time does your office open in the morning?"”

Response from a Cardiologist: "Received a call 11:30 at night from a patient complaining of headache, sore throat, runny nose and cough. Explained to her that I was her cardiologist and she should call her primary care doctor. Her reply: "Oh, I'm sure he's in bed by now.""